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Ethelred the Ill-Named
Reged: 26/09/2006
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Loc: Nottingham
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Should we work in WiFi enabled pairs as real terrorists would. It would certainly deal with the confiscated film and cards issue. By now even the most stupid PCSO, no matter how badly they had failed to be a proper copper, must realise that deleted digital photos can be recoverd.
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rfw1
Reged: 21/09/2004
Posts: 34
Loc: Eastleigh, Hampshire
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If you have a brush with the law and a policeman confiscates youre camera and deletes youre images, What can you do?
Can you sue the police for wrongfull arest & destruction of property ?
has anybody actualy managed to do this, or is it financialy nigh on impossible for a normal person to take the police to court ?
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Panda_
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Reged: 17/06/2008
Posts: 238
Loc: South Wales
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If you have a brush with the law and a policeman confiscates youre camera and deletes youre images, What can you do?
Can you sue the police for wrongfull arest & destruction of property ?
has anybody actualy managed to do this, or is it financialy nigh on impossible for a normal person to take the police to court ?
There was a topic on this in one of my photography magazines where they covered laws of photography in detail, but I don't have the magazine handy to check it.
Why would they insist on deleting the images there and then? where is the proof? Of course you can recover those images, but for someone who hadn't a clue how to goes to the police station to make a complaint, all the cops need to do is deny the thing and there's no evidence 
The PCSO aren't too harsh around here, the elderly are however!
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Mark101
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Reged: 15/03/2007
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Loc: Lincolnshire
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If you have a brush with the law and a policeman confiscates youre camera and deletes youre images, What can you do?
Can you sue the police for wrongfull arest & destruction of property ?
has anybody actualy managed to do this, or is it financialy nigh on impossible for a normal person to take the police to court ?
My understanding of the law is that they can only take BY LAW your camera and images if they arrest you. Police who do otherwise are breaking the law themselves.
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ermintrude
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Reged: 30/06/2003
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Loc: London, UK
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If you have a brush with the law and a policeman confiscates youre camera and deletes youre images, What can you do?
Can you sue the police for wrongfull arest & destruction of property ?
has anybody actualy managed to do this, or is it financialy nigh on impossible for a normal person to take the police to court ?
My understanding of the law is that they can only take BY LAW your camera and images if they arrest you. Police who do otherwise are breaking the law themselves.
But they still cant DELETE the images as they would be considered evidence, plus they are still NOT the property of the police.
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Mark101
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Reged: 15/03/2007
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Loc: Lincolnshire
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Personally, having a PC for a Brother-In-Law, discussion leads to the following opinion. If you know that you are within the law either ask the officer concerned to accompany you to the nearest police station or ask for his station number and phone the duty officer. I have and will continue to make my point with police officers when I know they are acting outside of the law regardless of the issue. One thing though, I'm always friendly and chearful when doing so and alway part on friendly terms.
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brummie
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Reged: 29/04/2008
Posts: 9
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ok for a pc to see or delete pics they need a court order, if they force you to delete you can sue for compensation and should file a complaint. If they arrest you for some spurious reason then it wont stick you can sue for wrongful arrest. be friendly, but if the become physical before trying to arrest point out to them they are assaulting you, its simple. however its also difficult, pcsos, can ask you what you are doing and all you have to say is taking photos, its legal, thats it the have no rights beyond that, also most of us carry large lenses, and if you are in a place where loads of others are taking pics point out that fact, why are you not questioning them as well. if the terrorism act is used as a quote point out the fact that intelligence gatherers use covert means not overt ones, and they are being unreasonable, with a smile. Then walk, if they ask for your details refuse. cheers
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stonflo
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Reged: 01/12/2005
Posts: 68
Loc: shropshire
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I was in Beleek Northern Ireland a couple of weeks ago. armed police everywhere, took a photo of a water pump in the main street and was approach by one of the armed police who asked if I was a pro photographer. Flattered though I was I said no and he asked what I had photographed so I showed him the2 pics I had taken and he was satisfied that no police were shown as he did not wish to appear on U-tube.
His eyesight was possibly poor as there were him and another policemann on one of the pics.
Stonflo{Mike)
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