Newtoallthis2008
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Reged: 12/03/2008
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Hi all, i'm going to purchase my 1st SLR in the next couple of wks and having done all my research i am going for the 450d. Obviously will be purchasing lens and herein lies my query!!
Standard kit is the 18-55IS lens. After a bit of reading up the 17-85IS lens seems a better choice! Asking you pro's for a honest opinion on which lens i should get?
I rather not waste my money and get the 18-55 and then decide i need to upgrade and never use it again. The retailer is willing to sell me a 17-85 instead of the basic lens kit with my camera! Should i do this??
Also, is the 17-85 going to be best lens for a beginner like me and meet all my expectations of taking good pics or should i go for another one???
Usage will be portraits, landscapes and some sports!
Your help is greatly appreciated! Thanks. 
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alanS
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Have a look at Tamron 17-50 f2.8, Sigma 18-50 f2.8 and the Sigma 17-70.
I had a Canon 17-85 but I never used it after getting the Tamron 17-50 f2.8, but, it's not as long as the Canon 17-85.
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bench_ubbster
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I've the 17-85IS and I find it a great go-anywhere lens. It is a jack of all trades therefore do expect some limitations in the form of distortion at the wide end. But I don't find it too offensive. This is my first 'standard' dSLR zoom, so I have nothing to compare it to only my Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 which again shows some distortion at the wide end and it's much heftier than the 17-85IS. That's not to say the 17-85IS isn't well put together as it is and it will do me for a good few years.
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daft_biker
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I hear the 18-55IS is pretty good as kit lenses go. It doesn't seem as bad as the old non-IS kit lens but I've never used either personally. I have the 17-85IS and from the one time I've used it in anger it seems OK.
I guess the 17-85IS does everything the 18-55IS does and then a little more so the 17-85 seems like a safe bet if the extra money isn't a problem.
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davidh
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I guess the 17-85IS does everything the 18-55IS does and then a little more so the 17-85 seems like a safe bet if the extra money isn't a problem.
Apparently, the 18-55 does what it does better than the 17-85 for the same range.
It is however a budget lens, and doesn't feel that much different from its predecessor (the images look much better though). It is also perfectly paired to go with the 55-250 IS...
I suppose it comes down to if you have to pay extra for the 17-85, or its the same price. Buying the lenses new, you'd get both the 18-55 and the 55-250 for cheaper than the 17-85.
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Edited by davidh (06/06/2008 18:51)
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d123
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Loc: UK
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Quote:
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I guess the 17-85IS does everything the 18-55IS does and then a little more so the 17-85 seems like a safe bet if the extra money isn't a problem.
Apparently, the 18-55 does what it does better than the 17-85 for the same range.
It is however a budget lens, and doesn't feel that much different from its predecessor (the images look much better though). It is also perfectly paired to go with the 55-250 IS...
I suppose it comes down to if you have to pay extra for the 17-85, or its the same price. Buying the lenses new, you'd get both the 18-55 and the 55-250 for cheaper than the 17-85.
According to the photozone.de test, the 18-55IS actually out performs the 17-85 by quite some distance.
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Unlike most dedicated APS-C standard zoom lenses it is capable to keep a very good level even at the extreme corners of the image field.
Its resolution characteristic is similar to the (much higher priced) EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 USM IS at comparable aperture settings, quite a bit better than the EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 USM IS and naturally vastly improved over its non-IS predecessor!
18-55 Review
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Paul_R
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Loc: Middlesbrough, England.
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I've the 17-85IS and I find it a great go-anywhere lens.
Me too.
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Newtoallthis2008
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Reged: 12/03/2008
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Thanks all...will do a little more research! I think best bet would be to take pics with both lens at the shop and see which suits me! Although i do want a 'jack of all trades' lens rather than keep swapping lens every 5 mins. Regards, Jay
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NorthernMonkey
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You could hire them for a few days, and then choose.
I've had very good expirience with www.lensesforhire.co.uk
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