sohq
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Reged: 14/11/2007
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i there,i'll just start off by saying that i have absoultly no knowledge on this subject.i've just bought a samsung gx10 with an 18-55 lens..i havent got it yet ,it's in the post..i hope..my question is this..i intend to use it for taking pictures of my kids horse riding in an indoor arena where the light is not great,also they will be jumping over jumps..so i want to get action shots..also for general holiday photo's..landscape's etc..i am thinking of a 50-200mm lens..will that be too slow for the low light,or will i have to spend big money on a faster lens..i dont want to buy the wrong one and have to get another one..or mabey i'll need 2 anyway??,as you can see i am a complete beginner..thanks
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Siuya
Cool Hand Chris
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i there,i'll just start off by saying that i have absoultly no knowledge on this subject
Okay, well before you decide on the lens, have a look through these simple picture based tutorials. then come back and ask the question again Click me - don't worry that they are Canon based - they apply to your camera as well 
Also, take a look at these...
Shooting indoors
Panning technique
Pre-Focussing - Photographing Moving Subjects
I'm sure you'll have a better idea then 
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The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it (AA)
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sohq
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Ok, I have read the links and they are very informative..(I'll have to read them a few times and practice with the camera when it arrives)I can see that I have an awfull lot to learn here..for the shots inside the arena the subject will be a)moving, b)between 20 and 60 metres away, c)in low light.So I will need to use a)a fast shutter speed(for the movement), b)a telephoto lens (to get in close),that will c)have a large aperature(for the low light)..I think I will try the kit lens first to see what the results are like..then when I gain a bit of experience I'll look at another lens mabey the Pentax SMC-DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 ED [IF] SDM (although I don't have $1000 to spend on one) ..or possibly another brand like a sigma or a tamron..but I'll have lot more learning and a few more questions to ask on the forum first..
thanks for your help Chris
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Siuya
Cool Hand Chris
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I'm convinced the way to go is with F2.8 or better - the Pentax SMC-DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 ED [IF] SDM is brand new and would in fact be a 75mm-202.5mm on your camera due to the Focal Length Multiplier but at around $1000 is expensive. The other alternative is to look around for second hand lenses.
Why not ask in the Pentax forum about secondhand fast lenses that can be used on your camera.
Anyway, good luck with your project
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Chris
The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it (AA)
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sohq
newbie
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Thanks Chris..I'll have a look on the Pentax forum..I can see that it will be a steep and probably expensive learning curve..but hopefully fun as well...cheers
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mike_j
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Now's the time to back away. Put a padlock on your wallet, tear up your credit card, get a new girlfriend, lie on the beach and enjoy life. It's a long, downhill slippery slope you are facing.
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sohq
newbie
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yeh,and the camera hasn't even arrived yet 
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IvorETower
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Go-karting arena with lousy lighting, coloured bulbs just to make the lighting even more dire. ISO1600, 50mm f1.8 lens almost wide open, 1/30s shutter speed .. and I got around 150 shots similar to this:
There is no substitute for practice
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Too many cameras, too many lenses.......
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sohq
newbie
Reged: 14/11/2007
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thanks ivor..i only got the camera today,but i have a problem with it ..it has obviously been dropped or something,there is a crack on the shoulder beside the top lcd ..the lcd has lifted slightly..the camera seems to be working o.k. but it is certanly not wetertight..i'm not a happy camper...could you possibly send me a couple of photos of your gx10..one looking down directly from above showing the top lcd,..and one from the rear showing the area at the rear wheel ,this is out of line on mine from the damage..and one from the side just over the memory card slot,possibly showing where the lcd is flush with the top of the housing ..the reason i'm asking is that they are claiming that there is no damage...i want something to compare mine to..
thanks peter
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Siuya
Cool Hand Chris
Reged: 21/07/2001
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Hi - I found an image of the GX10 for you and have blown it up and lightened it - hopefully this will help you
Click for GX10 top view pic
Click for GX10 back view pic
More pics with review
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Chris
The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it (AA)
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sohq
newbie
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thanks chris, they are just what i was looking for..
as a matter of interest mabey someone can help me with another thing that is happening with this camera...when i turned it on ..on auto and on saf..in other words fully automatic,it is taking pictures that are completly black...the shutter is activating (i can hear it)...it was doing this yesterday when i got it...and then it was ok all day taking normal photo's..i dont know what i did ,i slowed the shutter speed on manual to 1 ( i think it was at 750) and it worked..but it also worked perfectly on auto....but today it is just taking black pictures again as if the lens cap is still on(i know that i know nothing about ptotography...but i know the lens cap has to be taken off)..no matter what mode i select on the dial..p..sv...m..tv..etc
am i missing something ,is there a setting i should have the camera on or is as a result of the damage i referred to earlier
thanks...peter
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LargeFormat
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Reged: 24/10/2006
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Loc: Buckinghamshire and Cumbria
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Do let us know how you get on with the damage.
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Siuya
Cool Hand Chris
Reged: 21/07/2001
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Something not right there 
You have 7 working days to return the camera under the Distant selling regulations
Ring 'em up first and ask for a returns number and get them to collect if possible (they may ask you to email them). Email/fax them anyway, taking a note of who you spoke to and the comments made - good luck!
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Chris
The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it (AA)
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sohq
newbie
Reged: 14/11/2007
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unfortunatly i bought the camera through e-bay at an auction so the consumer 7 day rules dont apply..you learn something new every day...anyway i have filled a claim with pay pal so ,hopefully i'll get my cash back,when i reveiwed the ad on e-bay and looked very very closely i could see the damage..so it should be a win for me ..but you never know with theese things...i'll let you know what happens ...not a very good start to my new interest in photography
chers peter
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Siuya
Cool Hand Chris
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when i reveiwed the ad on e-bay and looked very very closely i could see the damage
Hope you've taken a screen grab of the ad and saved it in case it's removed?
Anyway, good luck and when you get your money, come back and we'll try to find you a reliable bargain
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Chris
The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it (AA)
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