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hech54
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Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 (Old Push-Pull Versions)?
      #681506 - 22/07/2008 06:27

Are the old push-pull versions "backwards"? Is 200mm closest to the camera? I've never used one. My older 70-210D is....well.....normal - 70mm is closest to the camera.

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Re: Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 (Old Push-Pull Versions)? [Re: hech54]
      #681538 - 22/07/2008 09:10

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Are the old push-pull versions "backwards"? Is 200mm closest to the camera? I've never used one.



Well I'm not going to argue with a Nikonite about what is "backwards" - but I have three examples of push-pull manual focus zoom lenses in the house (Tamron, Olympus and Bell & Howell) designed in the late 70s or early 80s which do not change in overall length when zoomed. All three have maximum focal length with the zoom ring pulled towards the camera.


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Re: Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 (Old Push-Pull Versions)? [Re: hech54]
      #681548 - 22/07/2008 09:23

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Are the old push-pull versions "backwards"? Is 200mm closest to the camera? I've never used one. My older 70-210D is....well.....normal - 70mm is closest to the camera.




It appears that 200mm is closest to the camera on the Mk I and II versions...

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Re: Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 (Old Push-Pull Versions)? [Re: El Sid]
      #681706 - 22/07/2008 15:15

Strange.
I'm very used to my old trusty 70-210D...not sure if I could get used to working "backwards" in comparison. Something tells me to try to skip the older push-pull 200mm 2.8 and go for the newer ones.

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Re: Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 (Old Push-Pull Versions)? [Re: hech54]
      #681722 - 22/07/2008 16:19

I'm confused. 70-210, 80-200, and all combinations of these numbers. If I want an f2.8 mid zoom for DX but might be tempted by an FX body or even to revert to real film. What do I buy or do I wait for a lens that ain't compromised in the corners of the full frame. This question is largely of rhetorical interset only since in spite of earlier prejudice I am now firmly convinced that DX is more than good enough for not only my needs but also my desires.

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Re: Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 (Old Push-Pull Versions)? [Re: hech54]
      #681761 - 22/07/2008 17:50

IIRC unlike the older 70-210's (I have a series E f4) the 80-200mm has internal zooming which may account for the reversed direction...

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Re: Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 (Old Push-Pull Versions)? [Re: El Sid]
      #681791 - 22/07/2008 19:13

Well the 80-200 zooms were made for film. So Id assume it would be good enough!

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Re: Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 (Old Push-Pull Versions)? [Re: Learning]
      #681797 - 22/07/2008 19:40

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I'm confused. 70-210, 80-200, and all combinations of these numbers. If I want an f2.8 mid zoom for DX but might be tempted by an FX body or even to revert to real film. What do I buy or do I wait for a lens that ain't compromised in the corners of the full frame. This question is largely of rhetorical interset only since in spite of earlier prejudice I am now firmly convinced that DX is more than good enough for not only my needs but also my desires.




My only concern is getting something f2.8, and an f2.8 that is not too ancient for my D70. Like you....I'm not the least bit concerned about full frame either. My 70-210D is NOT f2.8....you may be thinking of the new 70-200VR...I don't have one of those....I doubt I could ever justify the price.
My 70-210D f4-5.6 is awesome on a perfectly sunny day....but I'm looking for something in the same range....but faster for not-so-perfect lighting conditions.

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Re: Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 (Old Push-Pull Versions)? [Re: hech54]
      #681900 - 22/07/2008 23:04

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Quote:

I'm confused. 70-210, 80-200, and all combinations of these numbers. If I want an f2.8 mid zoom for DX but might be tempted by an FX body or even to revert to real film. What do I buy or do I wait for a lens that ain't compromised in the corners of the full frame. This question is largely of rhetorical interset only since in spite of earlier prejudice I am now firmly convinced that DX is more than good enough for not only my needs but also my desires.




My only concern is getting something f2.8, and an f2.8 that is not too ancient for my D70. Like you....I'm not the least bit concerned about full frame either. My 70-210D is NOT f2.8....you may be thinking of the new 70-200VR...I don't have one of those....I doubt I could ever justify the price.
My 70-210D f4-5.6 is awesome on a perfectly sunny day....but I'm looking for something in the same range....but faster for not-so-perfect lighting conditions.




I had the old one touch push-pull 80-200mm 2.8 zoom bvut traded it when I got the D300 and misguidedly thought I'd soon have enough cash for the 70-200 AF-S VR. The 80-200 is a cracking lens, the only downsides being its weight and the fact that it doesn't have a tripod collar.

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Re: Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 (Old Push-Pull Versions)? [Re: hech54]
      #682131 - 23/07/2008 12:56

70-200 Sigma version......


You know you want it...........

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