APchris
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Reged: 06/05/2006
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...to the Olympics 
It was the right decision IMHO. A shame for Dwain of course but this was about more than him. Had the court rulled in his favour that could have been seen as an endorsement of drug use within sport 
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Seven..
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imo opinnion yes they were right, he robbed others of titles in competitions he won. If it were up to me I would ban anyone using illegal drugs from all aspects of their sport. There is no excuse for cheating!
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chromatin
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Reged: 26/06/2008
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I think he regrets getting caught more than the cheating itself.
The right decision but there will be plenty of other drug cheats winning medals in Beijing.
I don't know the answer, though.
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AGW
Reged: 03/10/2003
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Loc: Ayrshire
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The sport needs to come to clear position.
He cant have a two year ban for some events and a life ban for others. Most other nations punish the culprits (that get caught) but let them back after the bans have been seen through. I think it is un-reasonable for UK athletics to have a different set of rules from the British Olympics Association and for the BOA to have different rules from the rest of the world.
I think Mr Chambers was right to expect an even playing field.
I have to say that if they decide that the correct punishment for the crime is a ban, then they (and us) have to accept that when the ban is over that is the end of it. If they dont like that then they (the governing bodies)need to make the ban longer (or even for life). But they have to be clear and consistant.
Graeme
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Fen
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The thing is...
He developed his muscle strength whilst on the drugs.
Okay, he's clean now... but he is still benefiting from the gains he made on the drugs.
The ban, should be for life across the field.
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TheFatControlleR
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Quote:
The thing is...
He developed his muscle strength whilst on the drugs.
Okay, he's clean now... but he is still benefiting from the gains he made on the drugs.
The ban, should be for life across the field.
Indeed ALL fields... 
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AGW
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I would say that it is up to the sport to recognise this and factor it into their ban...whether its for life, 2 years, 5 years or whatever. But they have to be consistant and apply the same decission across the whole sport.
If the ban is for two years...thats it. If its for life, get another hobby Dwain. My gripe is that the rules are not being applied fairly.
Graeme
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Bokkie
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I believe he signed up to the charter acknowledging a lifetime ban from the Olympics if convicted of doping offences. If they had allowed him in they are effectively saying "Take dope. Get convicted. Serve your time. And if they don't let you back in the Olympic team, then sue them for restraint of trade." Of course, common sense prevailed and his place hopefully goes to someone who got where he was through hard work and playing clean. At 30, Chambers knows he would never make an Olympics team again. His actions and timing of this case prove how desparate he was. He has endeared himself to few others and I'm sure the rest of the team going to Beijing are relieved. Perhaps he has legal costs to pay so some sleazy newspaper will probably make him an offer to sell his story.
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beejaybee
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He developed his muscle strength whilst on the drugs.
Okay, he's clean now... but he is still benefiting from the gains he made on the drugs.
And you think the same doesn't apply to all the other athletes who are going?
I have little sympathy for this person, he knew what he was doing & was aware of the consequences of being caught. And I think he only wanted to resume athletics because he's been a failure in the other sports he tried.
But - in view of the fact that drug testing is inconsistent, and there are undoubtedly cheats getting away with it because of inadequencies in the testing methods as well as the testing regime - I think athletics ought to give up claiming that it's clean. Especially when substances like pseudoephedrine which are commonly used by 99% of the population to treat catarrh are considered "illegal". They're not, they ought to be accepted, as should the use of all other drugs which are licensed for consumption by the population at large.
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AGW
Reged: 03/10/2003
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Loc: Ayrshire
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I'm sure he signed up knowing the consequences and took the oath at the last olympic competition along with all the other athletes. But now he can see dozens of "reformed drugs cheats" from other nations going to take part and I think he is right to ask why they are going and he isnt.
I think he is right to challenge an inconsistently applied rule (yes in a professional sport, I think it is a restriction in trade).
Perhaps it would be better if they were all banned for life, but they are not. The sports international governing body demands the ban and accepts the "rehab" of the offenders as do the international olympic committee. Thats why he can take part in the trials and could potentially be British, European or World Champion. It is the life ban imposed by the British Olympic committee which is out of kilter.
Graeme
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Footloose
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From what I have heard (regarding the severity of his Ban) All of the other countries can indeed apply a lifetime ban, it seems to be an 'optional extra' though I think the UK maybe the first to apply it. Maybe due to reviewing his 'before and after' drug-taking performance figures, they have concluded that the the level of enhancement was so great, that they felt that allowing him to participate, would cause such a hue and cry from other competitors, that he would be disqualified later on and as a consequence, it would be a 'wasted' entry which could be given to someone else who deserves the chance and honour far more than he does.
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AGW
Reged: 03/10/2003
Posts: 7645
Loc: Ayrshire
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Well the BBC news just described the BOA life ban as "automatic for all cheats". Then they went on to list some of the cheats who will be taking part. The judge seems to have questioned the rule but deemed it enforceable. I would guess that if it gets apealed to the EU then the BOA will be forced to change.
Graeme
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sarah350
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Reged: 14/05/2007
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I think it has to be a lifetime ban - it would make the men who have had to hand their relay medals back (when he was part of the team)choke to think that he would be allowed to compete. 
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mjc7uk
Am I banned yet?
Reged: 08/07/2006
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Abu' fecking time he's banned!
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Benchista
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I think that the ban should be for two years, then the cheats should be shot - that way there's no quibbling.
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AGW
Reged: 03/10/2003
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Loc: Ayrshire
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Traditionally, these guys head off at the blocks anyway...
Graeme
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Seven..
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I think that the ban should be for two years, then the cheats should be shot - that way there's no quibbling.
lmao that's a bit drastic I think we should just stick pins in their eyes 
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