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Filter question..
      #680129 - 18/07/2008 01:08

You know you have various sizes like 58mm and 62mm etc. am I able to buy _any_ filter as long as it's compatible with my lens (holds 58mm)
I'd like to buy some new equipment for my camera but due to my experience I've only been searching for stuff that say "compatible with Fuji s9000"

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Re: Filter question.. [Re: Panda_]
      #680145 - 18/07/2008 07:19

Yes. Filters aren't specific to any camera type, you just have to get the thread size right. If you have lenses that take different sized filters, a good idea can be to buy the filters in the largest size you need and then get step-down adaptors that would allow you to fit the bigger filter to a smaller size filter thread e.g. a 58-52 step-down ring would allow you to fit a 58mm filter to a lens designed for 52mm filters. This can save quite a bit of money.

Oh, and if you are going to buy a polariser, make sure it's a "circular" type.

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Re: Filter question.. [Re: john_g]
      #680166 - 18/07/2008 08:53

Good recommendation. Kood do every size of stepping ring and they are inexpensive. With wide angles they will also take the filter bezel outside that of the lens and reduce the possibility of vignetting.

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Re: Filter question.. [Re: john_g]
      #680322 - 18/07/2008 13:28

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Yes. Filters aren't specific to any camera type, you just have to get the thread size right. If you have lenses that take different sized filters, a good idea can be to buy the filters in the largest size you need and then get step-down adaptors that would allow you to fit the bigger filter to a smaller size filter thread e.g. a 58-52 step-down ring would allow you to fit a 58mm filter to a lens designed for 52mm filters. This can save quite a bit of money.

Oh, and if you are going to buy a polariser, make sure it's a "circular" type.




Cheers John,
I've had a look around, pricing a few things up but what I'd like to know is this:
What is the difference between each brand? An example being that I went to Walters (yeah, they can be pricey) and noticed a Hoya/some other brand circular polariser filter for £35 and Argos are selling the same filters for £7.99 for some CamLink one.

Priced up an ND8 filter which was £22 as well, so I guess I'll have to wait until I get more money, since I lost £20 when I was out shooting last night

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Re: Filter question.. [Re: Panda_]
      #680332 - 18/07/2008 13:49

You could have a look at a filter holder system like Cokin.

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Re: Filter question.. [Re: Panda_]
      #680344 - 18/07/2008 14:22

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What is the difference between each brand? An example being that I went to Walters (yeah, they can be pricey) and noticed a Hoya/some other brand circular polariser filter for £35 and Argos are selling the same filters for £7.99 for some CamLink one.




I very much doubt they're the same filter... may be labelled similarly, but Hoya filters are usually quite good (at £35 you should be getting decent anti-reflective coatings for a start), cheapo ones are likely to have poor coatings (if any) and all the optical excellence of a beer bottle bottom.

Cheap filters usually work spectacularly badly with telephoto lenses in particular. But the more expensive ones often have a thinner mount too, which means less danger of vignetting with wide angle lenses.

You tend to get what you pay for; spending hundreds of pounds on a decent lens then skimping on a filter is daft.


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Re: Filter question.. [Re: beejaybee]
      #680351 - 18/07/2008 14:36

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You tend to get what you pay for; spending hundreds of pounds on a decent lens then skimping on a filter is daft.




I've noticed that you get what you pay for in Photography.
It seems when it comes to buying a lens that you see for example, a Canon lens for £700 then a cheaper model of the same spec for £300, there would be a £400 difference somewhere.


Last question here then for me:
Is there much (if any at all!) a difference between circular PL filters and 'normal' ones?

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Re: Filter question.. [Re: Panda_]
      #680352 - 18/07/2008 14:37

If it's for a camera with autofocus you have to use a circular PL.

A linear PL is of no use to you.

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Re: Filter question.. [Re: Panda_]
      #680361 - 18/07/2008 15:40

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What is the difference between each brand?



Hoya do two (as far as I know) grades. The superior one is called Pro. It has (allegedly) better coatings and a narrower bezel which is particularly significant on the polarizing filter to avoid vignetting.


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Re: Filter question.. [Re: Panda_]
      #680725 - 19/07/2008 18:27

Quote:

You know you have various sizes like 58mm and 62mm etc. am I able to buy _any_ filter as long as it's compatible with my lens (holds 58mm)
I'd like to buy some new equipment for my camera but due to my experience I've only been searching for stuff that say "compatible with Fuji s9000"

-P




The Fuji S9000 is quite compatible with industry standards for many accessories - I have one (under the UK name of S9500).

The filter thread size is 58mm, it has a standard flash hotshoe and PC sync socket, which are compatible with many flashguns (though you need to be careful of the trigger voltage with some very old types), and it has a standard shutter release button thread for a simple mechanical cable release.

The filters I use are a Hoya 58mm circular polariser, and a Cokin A series kit with neutral density and ND grad filters (in retrospect, I wish I'd gone for the slightly larger Cokin P series, which would be more compatible with other cameras and lenses I've aquired since the S9500).


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Re: Filter question.. [Re: AlexMonro]
      #680732 - 19/07/2008 18:56

There's a wee guide to polarisers in this month's WDC magazine. Well worth a look.

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Re: Filter question.. [Re: Fen]
      #680815 - 19/07/2008 22:39

Quote:

If it's for a camera with autofocus you have to use a circular PL.

A linear PL is of no use to you.




Funny thing that, I have a linear Cokin PL and never had any problems with it on autofocus cameras.

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Re: Filter question.. [Re: Rhys]
      #681195 - 21/07/2008 12:34

Me neither............... in fact the only polariser that has given me focus problems - on both AF and manual cameras - is a circular type....

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