Mechanicus
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Reged: 09/07/2008
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Hello. I hope I have put this in the right place. I am looking for help with my new camera, a Fuji Finepix S8000FD.
I have had this camera for 2 days now, I bought it after reading lots of good reviews. Although I don't really know anything about cameras, I have been talking to someone online who does, and all the tips they have given me haven't helped. Since buying this camera I have turned up quite a few reviews commenting on the bad quality of indoor photos.
When taking pictures outside, the camera seems fine, but as soon as I get indoors the quality becomes bad.
I get grain when using the camera on practicle settings (ie ISO 400 and up. Any lower and I'd have to use a tripod). I have tried with Face Detection on and off, and anti-blur on and off. I have tried with and without flash (which helps, but not a whole lot). I have tried different modes/scenes. I have tried setting the ISO to 400 and the Apeture to 5 (recommended by someone else). Everything I do gives me grain indoors.
Does anyone know the problems I am getting, and any tips so I can get clear, ungrainy pictures without the need for either a tripod or a lot of lighting rigs?
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Fen
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It isn't grain... the term is "Digital Noise" or just "Noise".
With digital compacts you'll get this when you're shooting at a higher ISO.
Outdoors, the camera is probably using a lower ISO and that's why you don't get any noise.
Indoors, it'll automatically choose a higher ISO and thereby giving you lots of noise.
The only real way around it would be to put the flash on when taking photos indoors.
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Mechanicus
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Reged: 09/07/2008
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Like I said, I manually chose a lower ISO, and even at 400 ISO I am getting 'noise'. If I go any lower I'll have to use a tripod.
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Norman
Reged: 23/09/2004
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Loc: West London, UK
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ISO400 isn't low. There are not many compact digicams that won't exhibit considerable noise at ISO400. Switch to ISO100 and turn the flash on or live with the noise.
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Mechanicus
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Reged: 09/07/2008
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So basically the camera selects an ISO which makes for a stable shot, but looks crap, and it's the photographer's job to 'trick' the camera into not taking lousy pictures by taking it out of Auto mode and manually changing every facet on the camera, by which time my subjects has moved off or the shot is lost?
If that's the case, my next question would be - is there a camera out there, £150 or cheaper, that has an easy point-and-shoot interface and takes good low-light photos? Oh, and does Ebuyer do returns? 
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T Sargeant
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Reged: 01/08/2004
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Loc: Reading, Berkshire
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Fuji F50fd is not a bad option, but tbh you *will* get noise no matter what compact you buy at about ISO 400. Some are better than others, but sadly it's a fact of life. Hopefully technology will improve, or manufacturers will realise we'd rather have less noise than 100 gazillion pixels... If you can track one down (hard) at a sensible price (harder! the Fuji F30 or F31 were probably a couple of the best compacts for low noise.
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john_g
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Reged: 09/05/2007
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Can you post an image, or a section of one, to give us an idea of how bad it is?
Maybe you can process the photos on your computer to reduce the noise. Most photo editing software will help to do this and there are specialised stand-alone packages that claim to do it even better.
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Nod
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Reged: 08/04/2006
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Loc: Devon, UK.
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There is some reasonable NR software available free. Yes, it reduces fine detail but it's not enough to wreck a shot in a print up to 5x7 or for screen use.
I use Noiseware Community Edition, available from http://www.imagenomic.com/nwsa.aspx
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