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Dorset_Mike
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"Standard" zooms
      #672071 - 28/06/2008 17:52

I film days there were loads of lenses in the range 24/28 to 70/80 (ish) quite a lot being constant f2.8 This is being translated for digital as 16/18 to 50/55 again many constant f2.8 which is more or less equivalent given the crop factor. This suggests to me that 3:1 zooms with reasonably fast apertures are an attractive and economically viable piece of kit.

So why do so many people moan that 17-50 is no good they want 17-70 or similar. We don't have a load of 50-150 ish lenses to more or less replace the 70-210s? We still have the 70-210s and only one 50-150 so far, Sigma. Why?

Yes there is a gap betwen 50 and 70, but should we be demanding more 50-150s or should we ask for 16/18-70/80s; but then again has technology advanced enough to make 4:1 zooms with constant f2.8 a bit more affordable?

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Re: "Standard" zooms [Re: Dorset_Mike]
      #672081 - 28/06/2008 18:20

Here here, but I would love something like a 10-50 f2.8 (constant) for around £250

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Re: "Standard" zooms [Re: Dorset_Mike]
      #672085 - 28/06/2008 18:30

As one of those moaners may I say that I never liked 28-80 types either. For a carry anywhere just-in-case lens I tended to find them just a bit short on too many occasions - which I why I have a 28-105 Canon for film and a 17-70 Sigma for digital. Others though are quite content with these and their equivalents and more power to them I say.

That said my first Canon zoom was a 'kit' 35-105.........which I found to be too long at the short end hence, the 28-105 purchase. I've also aquired an early 35-105 f3.5-4.5, a 35-135 USM and a 28-70 f2.8 Sigma (purchased mainly for the fast aperture and because it was a very silly price...)

Other than the advantages of fast aperture without weight cost I see no real need for 50-150 lenses. Even in film terms the 70/80-200/210 had been largely overtaken by the 75-300 types at all but the highest spec level and I don't honestly see that changing now...

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Re: "Standard" zooms [Re: Dorset_Mike]
      #672179 - 28/06/2008 22:58

My main standard lens in the latter part of my all-film days was a 28-135, which was a reasonable walkaround lens, although (for me) severely limited at the wide end. Now with (full-frame) digital I use a 24-105, which is a far better fit for me. When I first got a 28-80, it was liberating, but as time went by, it became more restricting - I find 20-24mm very useful, ditto 100mm.

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