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ham888
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AS-S Nikkor 18-70
      #668957 - 20/06/2008 07:51

Hello
My lens has f/3.5-4.5 G IF marked on it. Why are there aperture settings on the lens.
Should I be forcing the camera's aperture settings to be within the f/3.5-4.5 range?
Or are they something to do with how the zoom affects the f/xx??
Help is much apprciated
Harry (newbie)

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: ham888]
      #668973 - 20/06/2008 08:38

This is just a way of saying how much light a lens can capture when the aperture is fully open. Zoom lenses often have a range of values, such as you've quoted, because the amount of light they can capture changes slightly depending on the zoom setting. You don't need to pay any attention to this when you use the lens - certainly it isn't telling you to only use the lens over that aperture range.

The reason it's important is:
1. Lenses that can capture more light are better at shooting in low light conditions (there are other differences too, but that's the main one).
2. Lenses that can capture more light cost loads more! For example, look at the cost of a 200mm F2.8 lens compared to a 200mm F4 lens - the former lets in twice as much light but will cost you a lot more, and be bigger and heavier because the glass elements need to be so much larger.

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: john_g]
      #668974 - 20/06/2008 08:46

John

Thanks, very much appreciated. I'm on a BIG (and enjoyable) learning curve at present.

Harry

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: ham888]
      #668993 - 20/06/2008 09:17

Quote:

Or are they something to do with how the zoom affects the f/xx??




Yes. Many, if not most, zooms do not have constant maximum apertures (which tends to be a feature limited to the 'best' lenses) and normally the effective aperture is smaller at the longer end of the lens. As a sort of rule-of-thumb the wider the maximum aperture and the smaller the variation the better the optical performance of the lens is likely to be (though it's no guarantee), the price also tends to go up too.

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: ham888]
      #668999 - 20/06/2008 09:24

I've just got myself one of these lenses (AF-S 18-70mm F/3.5-4.5) to go with my shiny new (well, 2nd hand ) Fuji S3Pro. The things I particularly like about it are the good sharpness at pretty much any aperture and focal length, and the very good chromatic aberation. It's not quite so good for vignetting fully open at the wide end, and there is some distortion at wide angle, but these don't matter so much to me as I'm mainly interested in landscapes.

I found a very useful review with helpful interactive graphic charts at SLRgear, here.

CameraLabs gave it quite a good rating on their review here.


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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: AlexMonro]
      #669012 - 20/06/2008 09:40

Once again very useful and informative, thanks.

Heres another question - the hood (i guess thats what its called), the thing that snaps on the end to make you look uber proffesional.

What does it do exactly, should I be using it?

Harry

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: ham888]
      #669018 - 20/06/2008 09:53

It does a number of jobs. It's designed to stop non-image forming light (flare) getting in, so a correctly-designed* hood can actually improve the quality of your pictures. It also helps protect the lens.

* Hoods for zooms are generally only really effective at the widest zoom setting.

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: Benchista]
      #669027 - 20/06/2008 10:03

Yep. Imagine the sun isn't in the picture you're about to take, but it's close. In this case a lens hood effectively shields the front of the lens from any direct sunlight which might well cause flare or a general deterioration and softening of the image. I don't use them all the time - for example, when the sun is behind me, but there are times when they make an important difference and, don't forget, they can also be used to help protect the front of the lens from physical damage.

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: john_g]
      #669036 - 20/06/2008 10:24

Yes, but as Nick says, the ones for zooms are usually only effective at the wide-end (although there are a handful of honourable exceptions). The wider the short end is the more of a problem this is. For a 17-35mm type I'd generally leave the hood in the cupboard as they are pretty useless, being so short. In those circumstances it might be worth trying a french flag instead.

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: TimF]
      #669042 - 20/06/2008 10:31

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In those circumstances it might be worth trying a french flag instead.




I wonder how many here know what you're talking about there?

What he IS talking about, gentle readers, is a piece of card or similar on an adjustable arm that can be positioned to block out the worst of the flare. I've got a variant called a Flarebuster with a flexible arm and foam rubber discs that does a perfectly OK job, but I don't know if it's still made, and I've not actually seen any alternatives on sale for a long while - perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Useful thing to have, and you only need one for all your lenses.

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: TimF]
      #669045 - 20/06/2008 10:41

Quote:

Yes, but as Nick says, the ones for zooms are usually only effective at the wide-end (although there are a handful of honourable exceptions). The wider the short end is the more of a problem this is. For a 17-35mm type I'd generally leave the hood in the cupboard as they are pretty useless, being so short. In those circumstances it might be worth trying a french flag instead.




Hehe, now you know I'm a noob. French flag, a proper photographic term, a joke, a......? What is that.

Thanks again for all your help, I like it a lot.

I took a look at some of the poster Flicker / web pages - wow, some of those shots are awesome.

Hope to be that good one day,......and know about a French flag, let me think could it be the colours...??

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: Benchista]
      #669047 - 20/06/2008 10:43

Quote:

Quote:

In those circumstances it might be worth trying a french flag instead.




I wonder how many here know what you're talking about there?




French flag - it's a bit like a French letter but looks better on your pole.

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: Benchista]
      #669050 - 20/06/2008 10:45

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I've got a variant called a Flarebuster with a flexible arm and foam rubber discs that does a perfectly OK job, but I don't know if it's still made, and I've not actually seen any alternatives on sale for a long while - perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Useful thing to have, and you only need one for all your lenses.




Here ya go!

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: Benchista]
      #669052 - 20/06/2008 10:47

Quote:

Quote:

In those circumstances it might be worth trying a french flag instead.




I wonder how many here know what you're talking about there?

What he IS talking about, gentle readers, is a piece of card or similar on an adjustable arm that can be positioned to block out the worst of the flare. I've got a variant called a Flarebuster with a flexible arm and foam rubber discs that does a perfectly OK job, but I don't know if it's still made, and I've not actually seen any alternatives on sale for a long while - perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Useful thing to have, and you only need one for all your lenses.




Ah, we posted simultaneously. You were answering my question at the same time I was asking it.

Spooky

Thanks

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Re: AS-S Nikkor 18-70 [Re: ham888]
      #669092 - 20/06/2008 12:13

Lens hoods help keep the rain of your front element too.

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