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ermintrude
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Heeelllpppp! I am tearing my hair out. Profiles/Lunatic printer...
      #642905 - 14/04/2008 17:13

OK I am trying to print and it looks nothing like the original. Yadda yadda.

1) I calibrated the screen. Doesn't look much diferent.

2) Did a profile First Aid. Loads of profiles damaged so fixed those.

3) Thought maybe the yellow was out so ran a nozzle check. Light Black a bit icky but yellow fine, did a clean, looks perfect.

4) Set Profiles. I have Epson 2400 Premium SemiGloss Photo Best as the profile for the print. I also have it in Print and in Print Settings . Screengrabs of all settings in those links. I also get this error but I don't think its relevant no?

Still no good. This is the original:


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This is the print before fix:

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This is the print after fix:


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Theres a little less yellow in the highlights but not much has changed. Where am I going wrong? Im sure I have the right profile everywhere but I *cant* have.

Then I tried to save the screengrab as Save For Web jpeg and the jpeg version suddenly looked a bit like the problem I am getting with the printer - here are both shots:



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Its probably changed a bit with the jpeg so try this, straight screengrab, not touched at all (big file): here

You can't see well on these pics but they're stupidly, stupidly magenta in real life, they look almost pornographicly purple...



So it *must* be a profile error right?

Aaaggggghhhhhhhh!!!!! What have I missed out????!!!!

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Re: Heeelllpppp! I am tearing my hair out. Profiles/Lunatic printer... [Re: ermintrude]
      #642913 - 14/04/2008 17:33

Have you got the printer driver set to allow Photoshop to manage colour profile alone, ie colour management by the printer should be off.

I've an idea that if the printer driver and PS are both trying to manage the colour you can run into some major problems...

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Re: Heeelllpppp! I am tearing my hair out. Profiles/Lunatic printer... [Re: El Sid]
      #642963 - 14/04/2008 19:24

Quote:

Have you got the printer driver set to allow Photoshop to manage colour profile alone, ie colour management by the printer should be off.

I've an idea that if the printer driver and PS are both trying to manage the colour you can run into some major problems...




mmm you mean here?:



I have Let Photoshop Determine Colours. Or is there somewhere else as well?

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Re: Heeelllpppp! I am tearing my hair out. Profiles/Lunatic printer... [Re: ermintrude]
      #642973 - 14/04/2008 19:44

Quote:

Or is there somewhere else as well?




... printer/printing preferences/main/color management/ICM/OFF (no color adjustment)

At least that's how I set my Epson R800 - it mat well be different with your printer.

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Re: Heeelllpppp! I am tearing my hair out. Profiles/Lunatic printer... [Re: Roger_Provins]
      #643007 - 14/04/2008 20:44

It's in the printer page set up bit I believe. Lisa.

PS glad it's just not me having problems, makes me feel a lot better. Sorry.

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Re: Heeelllpppp! I am tearing my hair out. Profiles/Lunatic printer... [Re: lisadb]
      #643028 - 14/04/2008 21:25

Without calling you a granny or asking if you suck eggs I wonder if this might be worth reading

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Re: Heeelllpppp! I am tearing my hair out. Profiles/Lunatic printer... [Re: digitravel]
      #643035 - 14/04/2008 21:32

Oooh - I'd better read that too! I'm reading everything else on here so might as well! LDB

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Re: Heeelllpppp! I am tearing my hair out. Profiles/Lunatic printer... [Re: lisadb]
      #643272 - 15/04/2008 14:38

Without wishing to confuse this thread, I do something entirely different to these suggestions. I allow the printer to control the colour in Photoshop and use the ICM profile for the Epson paper and 'relative colorimetric' not perceptual.

It works very well for me on the Pro3800 and also on the R2400.

I have everything, camera, monitor and printer set to AdobeRGB.

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Re: Heeelllpppp! I am tearing my hair out. Profiles/Lunatic printer... [Re: Monobod]
      #643283 - 15/04/2008 14:52

I have uploaded to my Flickr site a screenshot of the settings I use. I cannot post it here as it is too big. Click on the Image, select 'All Sizes', then select 'Original'. You should be able to read it clearly from there.

I hope it helps. It is for the Pro3800, but is similar for the R2400. All I can say is that it works for me, but it goes against conventional thinking.

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Re: Heeelllpppp! I am tearing my hair out. Profiles/Lunatic printer... [Re: Roger_Provins]
      #643594 - 16/04/2008 11:11

Mmm thanks peeps, not got too much time to spend on it this morning but I dont get any opf those options. Im on a Mac so I dont know where the Print options have gone Print Settings gives me no options, just brings up the Preferences thingie and when I go there all I get to choose is what printer i want

Ill have another go when Ive got more time, thanks!

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Re: Heeelllpppp! I am tearing my hair out. Profiles/Lunatic printer... [Re: Monobod]
      #643834 - 16/04/2008 23:04

Thanks David, I've printed it off and I'll try that combination out next. I'm getting there slowly and three trees later. Lisa.

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