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Zou
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Ultra fine grain
      #489570 - 03/06/2007 19:43

I'm looking for the smoothest grained 35mm film I can find. What would you recommend? Delta 100, Pan+, Acros 100? It'll be for landscapes mainly.

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Re: Ultra fine grain [Re: Zou]
      #489578 - 03/06/2007 20:16

I've heard very good things about Acros, but whether it's the smoothest grained? I can certainly vouch for Pan F, although its main problem lies in its (comparitively) low speed and inherent high conrast. I used to use it all the time for landscape, but that was with a tripod, so slow shutter speeds weren't a problem. Only used Delta 100 once but I didn't like it.

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Re: Ultra fine grain [Re: Zou]
      #489591 - 03/06/2007 21:33

I used to use Fuji Acros 100 quite a bit and it's just about grain free. It's a bit more tolerant in exposure than Pan-F so that's the one I'd recommend as a starting point.

Ilford Pan-F needs careful exposure but if you can handle transparency film then Pan-F is a doddle. Although I've recommended Acros above I actually use Pan-F most of the time cos I'm a contrary bugger

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Re: Ultra fine grain [Re: Zou]
      #489596 - 03/06/2007 21:47

if you can still get it.

Kodak technical pan 2415 and for 120 film 6415.

The grain is virtually non existant but needs (needed) its own developer .

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Re: Ultra fine grain [Re: Gordon_McGeachie]
      #489653 - 04/06/2007 00:18

I love Pan F, in Acutol at 1+14. It controls contrast with beautiful tonal rendering, and very VERY fine grain. Unfortunately you can't now buy Acutol, and I'm not parting with any from my stash. If you really want to experiment (and I haven't tried it) go to www.retrophotographic.co.uk and read the review of Gigabit film. It sounds almost too good to be true- MEGA sharp and super fine.
It was reviewed favourably in Black and White Photography a while back, but I've just never had time to try it


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Re: Ultra fine grain [Re: skellum]
      #489698 - 04/06/2007 08:50


I tried a roll of "Gigabit" a few months back. It was all-but grain free and rather contrasty. The only thing that annoyed me was its very curly film base. It kept rolling up and trying to leap off the bench when I was handling the neg strips!!

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Re: Ultra fine grain [Re: skellum]
      #489712 - 04/06/2007 09:42

Quote:

I love Pan F, in Acutol at 1+14. It controls contrast with beautiful tonal rendering, and very VERY fine grain. Unfortunately you can't now buy Acutol, and I'm not parting with any from my stash.




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Re: Ultra fine grain [Re: Benchista]
      #489762 - 04/06/2007 11:12

Thanks for all the advice. I'll be using a tripod so slow isn't a problem.

Are all these films equally good for scanning?

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Re: Ultra fine grain [Re: Zou]
      #489993 - 04/06/2007 17:19

Of course another method is just to use a larger format. With everyone going digital you can pick up medium format kit for a song these days and it will make a huge difference for you.

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Zou
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Re: Ultra fine grain [Re: Woolliscroft]
      #490283 - 05/06/2007 11:24

Quote:

Of course another method is just to use a larger format. With everyone going digital you can pick up medium format kit for a song these days and it will make a huge difference for you.




Sadly I can only manage one chorus, not a full song. If I go MF it'll probably be TLR - Seagull of something like that. My Holga is still on hold, and whilst a MF pinhole (Zero 2000 or the like) is deeply tempting, it remains out of reach.

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Re: Ultra fine grain [Re: Zou]
      #512926 - 18/07/2007 15:27

Pan F+ shot at 25 ISO and developed in Ilford Perceptol.

Yes it's slow and yes I know it's a 50 ISO film but Perceptol drops it a stop. Grain is pretty much non-existant but you'll be looking at quite long exposure times. check Ilford's site for reciprocity corrections on anything over 5 seconds.


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