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Quote: Good to hear that. Stores vary - Sony has just rolled out the ACE program with showcases for selected stores, you can see photos of a fully stocked cabinet at LCE Colchester on photoclubalpha.com - they sent photos in today. You can assume that dealers with this Sony ACE accreditation will not be trying to switch sell to Nikon! Earlier in this thread Sony was said to have three kit lenses. Actually, it depends on the deal and the dealer - Sony has five kit lenses: 16-80mm, 16-105mm, 18-70mm, 18-200mm and 18-250mm. We recently sold a Tamron 18-250mm after getting a s/h Sony 18-250mm to replace it, there is sufficient gain in focus speed to make the difference worthwhile. As it happens the 18-70mm is a fair match for any of the lenses (except the CZ 16-80mm) across its own range, offers just as a good a close-up repro ratio, and despite stronger aberrations towards the edges of the frame holds up for big prints if you stop down to f8. David |