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Damien DemolderModerator
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Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read
      #664187 - 07/06/2008 11:24

Who can be bothered to read camera manuals?

Some can, and digest them from end to end, and others don't even take them out of the box. Is it really worth the effort and do you learn anything new? Are those who don't bother cheating themselves as they then can't make the most of their new purchase?

Which category do you fit in?

Head to the Home Page to vote.


Maybe your manual is supplied only on a CD...

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #664191 - 07/06/2008 11:35

I think that those who have no experience/knowledge of using a camera should sit and read the manual with the camera in front of them so they can work through stuff.

If you've used a SLR and move over to a DSLR, you might just want to read the digital related bits of the manual.

Others... maybe a glance at new bits.

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Fen]
      #664192 - 07/06/2008 11:38

I only ever, ever, ever read it if theres something I know it does that I cant work out how to do, or by far the most likely, to look up whatever error its offered me...

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: ermintrude]
      #664197 - 07/06/2008 11:49

I tend to scan through most of it, just to familiarise myself with some of the features. I then only use it if there's something specific I need to know. My DSLRs came with a physical manual.
My compact came only with a CD manual. I've never read through that and only refer to it in case of a specific need.

Fen said:
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I think that those who have no experience/knowledge of using a camera should sit and read the manual with the camera in front of them so they can work through stuff.



I'd agree with that.

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Hotblack]
      #664200 - 07/06/2008 12:03

In the days of manual cameras I don't think I ever read the manual. This approach fell down when I bought an EOS 3 and just couldn't get on with it, if I'd read the manual then things may have been different. Having recently moved to the world of the dSLR, I read the whole manual to familiarise myself with what the camera will do, but concentrated on the areas that I knew I'd use. I dip into it every now and then but I tend to use the pdf version on the pc rather than the printed manual (this fell apart).

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: OneTen]
      #664203 - 07/06/2008 12:14

I use them as a reference when first setting up a new camera, then they sit in a box with loads of others 'just in case'.

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Dave_Cox]
      #664213 - 07/06/2008 13:07

I just downloaded a .pdf manual for mine so I knew a bit better what the custom functions did. Other than that I pretty much know how to operate my camera.

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #664228 - 07/06/2008 13:50

I read the manual - in fact I read every manual before I buy the item - that way there are no surprises

At the moment I'm reading about the Brother all-in-one printer (for my daughter) that uses un-chipped carts - we like them at £2.99 each

So, before you ask a stupid question - RTFM (read the flipping manual)

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Siuya]
      #664240 - 07/06/2008 14:31

Having purchased a new D60 Friday 6th i am now reading through the whole manual, Then i shall start with the finer points that are beyond my initial understanding..
My head hurts already


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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #664245 - 07/06/2008 14:54

I tend to skim through the manual first before using the camera for the first time. I tend to think it's best to do this so I have a good understanding of how to control the camera and what it's capable of.

I skip the bits where it tells you stuff about how to control the depth of field, selecting a faster shutter speed for a fast-moving subject etc etc.

Then I'll start using it and only ever open the manual when there's something specific I need to figure out how to do.

So I end up reading most of it.

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: sjaszczak]
      #664268 - 07/06/2008 16:13

Depends how much of the manual I can read whilst the battery is charging Am hoping cameras will start coming with those batteries that hold their charge soon

Mostly I use them as reference.

Are there any cameras with the manual on them in a format that can be read on the screen? Bit like an online help file...could be handy when out and about!

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: sjaszczak]
      #664270 - 07/06/2008 16:16

I do a thriving trade in writing translations for friends -except it's not a trade as I don't charge them - now there's a thought.

Most recent was for my dad for a G9 - I got the manual down to 7 pages. I know they do those quick start guides but they are often as much in manufacturer speak as the main one. What I find is they tell you what the function is called and where to find it but don't tell you what you might actually acheive by using it - assuming everyone reading it knows what depth of field is or how 2nd curtain flash might influence a picture.

It's actually a really useful exercise to sit down and translate what you need from the manual. I get students to do it - you end up with a slim pocket manual with all the things you really need in your own language. Having to do this stops that syndrome where you read the same two pages sixty times and then find yourself waking up in a pool of your own drool.


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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: daft_biker]
      #664271 - 07/06/2008 16:19

Quote:


Are there any cameras with the manual on them in a format that can be read on the screen? Bit like an online help file...could be handy when out and about!


Yeah, my Nokia N95 8GB 5mp camera in .pdf format

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Siuya]
      #664308 - 07/06/2008 19:06

Quote:

I read the manual - in fact I read every manual before I buy the item - that way there are no surprises




Me too - I find it's the best way to put all the reviews I read in context. For instance, on my Samsung GX-10 quite a few reviews moaned about the lack of a dedicated ISO button, but reading all the manufacturer's blurb reveals that you just have to hold down the 'OK' button and turn the front dial. Easy when you know how. I suppose I wouldn't bother reading the manuals if it never taught me anything but, invariably, I learn things I didn't know.

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: john_g]
      #664383 - 08/06/2008 07:56

Always read. Dont necessarily understand it all, but I'm always worried that I will b***** the thing up if I do it wrong.
Actually in the process with an A200 right now. Help!

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #664395 - 08/06/2008 09:23

I have read the manuals of my film cameras, e.g. Pentax ME Super, from cover to cover, but they're not very long and easily digested.

That for the Canon 20D I have not read as it does not make easy reading! I do refer to it as needed, for example to find out how to set a manual white balance, how to take bracketed shots, etc.

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Wheelu]
      #664408 - 08/06/2008 10:34

Usually on a need to know basis, as I work my way through the AP course im learning new stuff about my DSLR all the time. As a relative beginner im finding that works best for me, rather than playing with stuff I know naff all about

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #664451 - 08/06/2008 13:40

I read the EOS 10D one before I got the camera so that I understood the digital bits. In general, if a camera is simple, I don't bother reading instructions any more - for a complex camera, I do.

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: Benchista]
      #664608 - 09/06/2008 01:12

As long as I can see a shutter speed wheel and an aperture wheel or an exposure compensation button....NAH!

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Re: Poll - Camera manuals - to read or not to read [Re: FujiSigmaNolta]
      #664633 - 09/06/2008 09:00

I always RTFM especialy with techie stuff. Not from cover-to-cover, but the model specific stuff that may trip me up when actualy using the thing. Did this with my camcorder (HVX 200) and DSLR (EOS 5D, both of which have not-obvious abilites and functions.
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