matts3
journeyman
Reged: 21/09/2006
Posts: 80
Loc: Bristol, UK
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I am working through this course like Brian the Snail from the Magic Roundabout.......very slowly! 
Module 2 is almost done and I have surprised myself in sussing the grey card test as well as what the module is all about!
Well I hope I have cos i could have my facts arse about face, but too far down the road now, so I shall stick my hat in the ring and hope for the best! 
Anyone else still on module 2?
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Damien Demolder
Tharg the Mighty
Reged: 22/08/2001
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Loc: Essex born and badly-bred
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Well done matts. A lot of students find module 2 hard but once you get the idea it is actually pretty easy. Plus what you learn about your camera will prove really useful in the future.
Well done again, and step up the pace to keep your self on a roll.
damien
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Fozzy
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Reged: 04/08/2006
Posts: 12
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Hi Matts,
Yes I am a snail on Mod 2 as well due to other pressures, and now waiting for a cloudy but not grey day to finish the other shots. Perhaps Mark in Ireland can give me the nod when that kind of weather is on the way. However, I have started working on Mod 3 in the interim and as a New Years resolution I will now continue at a reasonable pace.
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David
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Carole
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Reged: 06/09/2006
Posts: 170
Loc: Hampshire
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Hi, I'm also still on module 2  . I got the grey card exercise done some time ago (after a number of attempts!! .... I understood what I was trying to do and why, but it took a while to get a satisfactory set of images & results). I then got stuck as many did with the run of grey and/or foggy days, plus a whole host of other things going on.
I have now taken some pics which I think will be ok for the 3x3 part. I was hoping that I had managed to get all 3 sets to complete that part of the module, but a quick scan through makes me think that I will still need to have another go for at least 1 set. I am planning to have a proper look through tonight and see what else I need to do.
I've been very limited on being able to get out and take pics over the last month or so, and inevitably when I have been able to go, it hasn't been the right conditions for the exercise. However, hopefully over the next week or so, that should resolve itself and I'll be able to have a bit more opportunity to move myself on in the course.
I have to say I've lost some confidence and definitely a lot of momentum through not getting out and taking pics regularly, and not progressing very fast on the course (hence being very quiet on the forum). Hopefully that will also resolve itself once I get moving again.
Carole
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lisadb
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 05/09/2006
Posts: 1710
Loc: Staffs
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Hi everyone,
there were loads of interesting skies today - did you manage to get any pics for mod 2 or were you at work all day like me?  Lisa.
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Fozzy
newbie
Reged: 04/08/2006
Posts: 12
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Hi Lisa
Yes working but on holiday from tomorrow.
David
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tal
journeyman
Reged: 19/10/2006
Posts: 69
Loc: Lancashire
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 yeah, guys, tell me about it! Brian the snail about sums it up! Same here, not enough daylight hours when yopu're free at this time of year. I have taken to carrying my camera into work everyday, just in case there's a break in the grey cooinciding with lunch. Which hasn't happened yet... praps just as well, the part of Blackburn where I work is not the most classically beautiful. Though a scene not far away once featured in a photo mag competition... (not mine, sadly! I would never have thought of it!). The subject was "dereliction"...!
I got my card done before chrimbo, but I'm not sure I have my head round the whole thing - I have taken a few 3 x 3 pics, but seem to overexpose horribly on the final shot. That being said, the light has been a bit poor, so the difference between sky and foreground hasn't been huge, so the initial (bracketed) exposure has been OK in the first place. Praps I need to wait til it's a little brighter? Better get on with Module 3, then, else I'll never get done!
Reading forward, at least some of the other modules aren't as weather-dependant! And the days are getting lighter... 
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lisadb
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 05/09/2006
Posts: 1710
Loc: Staffs
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Hi Sheila,
I didn't think my final pics of the 3x3 were quite right either. They seemed not to be balanced to me ie sky too light & land/buildings too dark. But I'd done what was required & Ben seemed Ok with them, so there you go! Lisa.
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tal
journeyman
Reged: 19/10/2006
Posts: 69
Loc: Lancashire
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Thanks for the advice! I'm quite a bit happier now. I'm going to analyse my pics again - maybe the nine I've got will be OK, I'll have a look and a think. You're a star!
Sheila
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whitetop
newbie
Reged: 06/09/2006
Posts: 16
Loc: Bonny Scotland
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I'm having all sorts of problems with module two too I must admit. The grey card test was done last year on a bonnie day in late October then - hit the buffers. There was rain, then there was more rain and, as we say, there was yet more rain! And to date the rain has been fairly constant. Then there was the wind. Got some great pics of fallen trees, wrecked gardens, busted greenhouses and chimneys that "missed me by about two inches, that did".
Then one day sunshine!! Grabbed the box Brownie and by the time I got to somewhere you might call scenic, about three minute drive, it was bucketing and that, citizens, is the story of my life to date. I was out today and got drizzled on and another pic of dull wet weather I need like a hole in my money pocket. (Scottish, you see.)
My whole timetable of a four week turn around has gone completely up in smoke and my tutor, quite rightly, says
one should take nice new fresh photos and not rely on library stuff. I'm thoroughly dpressed by all this and I may yet get lines for late delivery of homework. Worse, I may not get a good certificate. But as John Macenroe famously retorted to a shout from the crowd during a Wimbledon final "Christ, man, I'm tryin', I'm tryin'".
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lisadb
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 05/09/2006
Posts: 1710
Loc: Staffs
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Hi whitetop,
your post made me laugh - in sympathy I might add!! I did my 3x3 pics in Oct/Nov when there were days of bright sunshine, which I found equally as bad. As the sun was low in the sky, it caused a lot of shadows and glare, so something in between very bright and very dull would work best I suppose. Keep your 'box Brownie' handy and you're sure to get your pics soon! Good luck!! Lisa.
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Carole
member
Reged: 06/09/2006
Posts: 170
Loc: Hampshire
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I was laughing at your post too, Whitetop. I've had a different problem, but same outcome: we had completely clear blue skies here this morning, but I looked out of the window around lunchtime and big white fluffy clouds were starting to roll in. So I was poised to dash out of the house as soon as my little boy woke up from his post lunch nap, to get my 3x3s sorted (don't ask where I was going to dash to, that was a minor detail in the whole scheme of things!).
Anyway, he didn't sleep that much longer, but by the time he woke up, the blue sky with fluffy white clouds had become filled with a single uniformly grey cloud (or so it looked!). Foiled again!!! (I did get as far as doing the dash on sunday when the sky was clearing, and took some shots, but really it didn't clear enough to give anything that could hand on heart be described as an interesting sky, so I need to do it again on a better day).
Still, I'm getting to know my camera better through having a go at this stuff and feel that I am ready to get it right once I get good conditions! (fingers crossed!!!!!)
Carole
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Carole
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Reged: 06/09/2006
Posts: 170
Loc: Hampshire
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that's fingers crossed for getting it right and for good conditions!!!
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Banitsa
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Reged: 30/11/2006
Posts: 85
Loc: Gilching, Germany.
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Cheer up Guys and Gals,
Even a really grey sky can be interesting. Look at picture on here http://web.mac.com/victorwood/iWeb/SPI_Photo_course/Mod%201.html Gloom andd doom, but still an interesting sky.
Dont look outside the box, forget the box!
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Carole
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Reged: 06/09/2006
Posts: 170
Loc: Hampshire
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oh for a sky like that, Victor!!! I thought I was getting something like that (though far less dramatic) on sunday, but there just wasn't enough contrast between 1 grey cloud and the next! The pics I got sort of illustrate the point of the exercise, but I don't want to submit them, so I'm going to have another go
carole
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APchris
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 06/05/2006
Posts: 1670
Loc: Lincolnshire
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Quote:
Dont look outside the box, forget the box!
Now where have I heard that before....? 
Hi Vic, that is a nice sky but the trouble is, I don't feel like going out in that weather at the moment as its usually accompanied with wind and cold
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Banitsa
journeyman
Reged: 30/11/2006
Posts: 85
Loc: Gilching, Germany.
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In my case it was a very severe thunder storm about 2 km up the road. I was driving at the time and jumped out for a few minutes to get the shot.
I was thinking of your sig at the time I wrote the post Chris, but couldn't remember where I read it!
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Victor
Edited by Banitsa (01/02/2007 18:42)
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whitetop
newbie
Reged: 06/09/2006
Posts: 16
Loc: Bonny Scotland
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Thank you one and all for getting a laugh out of my travail. All I got was tears. My Tutor, note the capital - sucking up, see, has suggested to me that nice pictorial pics are what are wanted. If the light ever improves he may get three graphic art type photos of clouds, rooftops, tv aerials etc. as taken from the top step at the back door. Keep smiling, you all.
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matts3
journeyman
Reged: 21/09/2006
Posts: 80
Loc: Bristol, UK
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Thanks for that your words of wisdom are very encouraging!
Module 2 has changed the way I take my pictures and with the aid of Lee graduated filters when shooting landscapes I now have greater control of my highlights and the understanding of why!
If I were to learn nothing more from this course (well I am cos i am going to learn loads!) then this would be a module which would have benefitted me most of all!
Onto Module 3 now!
Matt
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Banitsa
journeyman
Reged: 30/11/2006
Posts: 85
Loc: Gilching, Germany.
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if Im correct here?
There are some errors in the text on Page 21. In the text describing the picture of the boat in Venice the author says “I measured the sky to be f/11 at 1/500 sec”. He then goes on to say “I set the camera for f/11 at 1/125 sec - 2 1/3EV darker than the sky”. This gives a difference or 2EV, not 2 1/3 EV. As for the darker than the sky. Its badly worded and I think he meant the camera was set as if the sky was 2 EV darker. His camera could cope with the sky being 2 1/2 EV brighter than the subject, so he has over exposed the sky by 1/2 an EV whilst the boat is under exposed by 1 2/3 EV. Its easier to pull details out of an under exposed are than reduce over exposure.
Thanks
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