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bagpuss
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Rollei Black & White Slide Film?
      #441400 - 19/02/2007 23:38

From Silverprint.co.uk
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Rollei RSD100

A black and white slide film for scan and print purposes which produces a positive image DIRECTLY by developed with a standard monochrome developer, Rodinal negative developer is recommended. Initial supplies will be 35mm and 120 roll formats, sheet film formats should follow later Speed is E.I. 10-20. The base for this unique slide film is an orthochromatic micro film on clear PET layer with non-curling layer. Resolution is approaching 326 lines/mm. In stock @ 2/1/07

http://www.silverprint.co.uk/PDF/SLIDE_DIRECT.pdf






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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: bagpuss]
      #441408 - 20/02/2007 00:05

Hmmm - wonder if it's a development of the Maco 25 ORT? Same base, similar speed, orthochromatic...

A film for my better cameras.

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: bagpuss]
      #441444 - 20/02/2007 07:27

Sounds like one for noting down. Nice and slow, just the way we like it

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: bagpuss]
      #441564 - 20/02/2007 11:12

Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

I'd heard about this last year from the Robert Vonk at Fotohuis but I'd almost forgotten about it. Hats off to Silverprint for continuing to support film

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: bagpuss]
      #441653 - 20/02/2007 13:42

I ordered some of this last week from Silverprint and it arrived yesterday. As I don't do my own processing I've just e-mailed Peak Imaging to see if they would be able to process it. I'll let you know what they say.

Interestingly, the original labels on the film canisters give the speed as ISO 50, but they've been covered up with new labels quoting ISO 20. Looks like I'll have to bracket my exposures.

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: nf3996]
      #441696 - 20/02/2007 14:07

Quote:

I ordered some of this last week from Silverprint and it arrived yesterday. As I don't do my own processing I've just e-mailed Peak Imaging to see if they would be able to process it. I'll let you know what they say.

Interestingly, the original labels on the film canisters give the speed as ISO 50, but they've been covered up with new labels quoting ISO 20. Looks like I'll have to bracket my exposures.




Oooh, let us know!

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: bagpuss]
      #442255 - 21/02/2007 14:09

I've had an initial reply from Peak Imaging. They tell me that the developer they use for their normal B&W processing is X-Tol (Rollei recommends Rodinal for the RDS film, I believe). They are going to make a few enquiries before they commit and they'll get back to me shortly. I'll let you know what the outcome is.

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: nf3996]
      #442277 - 21/02/2007 15:02

Well, I've just had a reply from Peak Imaging. Peak contacted Maco Manufacturing who make Rollei film, but Maco didn't know the answer. This is what Maco told Peak Imaging:


Thank you for your inquiry.

A strongly working developer of the type KODAK HC110, with double processing time, is opposite to standard films, is to be preferred to an X-Tol developer.

If you cannot make that, then also double the processing time with the X-Tol.

The problem is not the development, the problem is the exposure! In case the film comes out from the processing in totally pitch black, then the photographer still must expose more strongly!

At the moment, we are testing thereby the quality of a ROLLEI BOOSTER, in combination with standard developer. We want to offer in the future an additive, that can be added to each commercial developer, in order to increase the sensitivity, and shortening the proccesing time!

The RSD film presently acts as an PROTOTYPE film, the official introduction into the market, with exact detail processing specifications, is intended for APRIL 2007.

For further questions, please feel free and contact me.

With kind regards

Wolf Rainer Schmalfuss
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So, perhaps I should wait until April before using the film! I think I'll try one film on something that's not important, bracket the exposures and ask Peak Imaging to process it in X-Tol with double processing time. At least I'll then have an idea of what to expect.

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: nf3996]
      #442283 - 21/02/2007 15:17

Quote:

Well, I've just had a reply from Peak Imaging. Peak contacted Maco Manufacturing who make Rollei film, but Maco didn't know the answer. This is what Maco told Peak Imaging:



Good ol' Peak, going that extra mile again . A lot of places would say 'sorry can't do that mate' without investigating or 'it'll cost ya!' then find out they can't after taking the money off you

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: bench_ubbster]
      #446119 - 01/03/2007 12:42

Slides direct from a neg developer? That must be good news, sounds like a replacement for Kodak's Rapid Process Copy film. Although the direct nature of the slides made RPC EI0.06! Hope this one will be faster but I'm not sure how they would make it usable.

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: nf3996]
      #585901 - 20/12/2007 23:50

If you want B/W slides use a normal B/W and use the reversal process. see the Ilford site for details and all info. I used FP3 with home brew chemicals. it's not difficult but you will need a very accurate thermometer.

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: oldrollei]
      #585955 - 21/12/2007 09:08

Welcome to the forum!

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If you want B/W slides use a normal B/W and use the reversal process. see the Ilford site for details and all info. I used FP3 with home brew chemicals. it's not difficult but you will need a very accurate thermometer.



Where did you get FP3, it's been extinct for decades?

It wasn't too difficult in the days when the reversal processing kits were freely available. I don't know where to get them now.

I did a few of these thirty odd years ago and discovered that it was necessary to double the time on the second development in order to get decent black shadows, this had the effect of drastically reducing the effective speed of the film - ISTR rating FP4 at 25 ASA in order to produce reasonably toned slides.


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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: beejaybee]
      #586028 - 21/12/2007 10:23

Sliverprint also do mono reversal kits.

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: Mojo_66]
      #586062 - 21/12/2007 11:34

DR5 also do reversal of just about any mono film for £15 a roll, which with the current exchange rate, is about £7.50

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Re: Rollei Black & White Slide Film? [Re: beejaybee]
      #586246 - 21/12/2007 18:59

When I say I used FP3 it was about 45 years ago, I obtained all the chemicals from a local chemist. he also made up E6 chemicals for me. I'm a sad old darkroom worker dating back to 1950, yes I worked with a 1/2 plate camera with a Tessar lens. that was real quality.

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