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20-10-12, 08:26 PM
Hi, I need a camera that i can take to concerts/ events , needs a great zoom so I can get good pics of what's on stage and also a camera that's good for dark events with flashing lights. Cheers
21-10-12, 07:03 AM
Hi and welcome.
Read this first then let us know your budget. The more you spend the better the images :)
21-10-12, 11:23 AM
Thanks for the link, Some interesting info in there ESP about turning flash of. I don't really want to spend more than £200 on a 2nd camera,mi have a Panasonic Lumix dmc fx33 which is ok for everyday photos. Looked a a bridge camera Nikon l810 as it is on offer. Any help would be appreciated thank you
21-10-12, 03:08 PM
Hi, well, if you read all that was in that link, then you should realise that getting good images with a small sensor camera (which most compacts and bridge cameras have. Including the Nikon Coolpix L810), means that your pics will be poor unless you're right at the front of the stage. They forgot to mention that zooming causes even less light to reach the sensor, thereby causing noisy/grainy images...
If you're really serious about your gig photography then you need a camera with a much larger sensor to capture low light images. I'm going to recommend the Olympus E-PM1 Clicky for review (http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/olympus_epm1_review/) and it's reduced to half price at £229 Clicky (http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/olympus-e-pm1-compact-system-camera-with-14-42mm-zoom-lens-black-11875767-pdt.html?srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~UFC-Compact_System_Cameras~11875767~LT&mctag=gg_goog_7904_&searchType=AdWordsSearch&externalAdId=16869304164&placement=&gclid=CKrAlcSfkrMCFXHLtAodv1MALA).
The lens that comes with it has a Focal Length factor of 2x Clicky for explanation (http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/techniques/camera-skills/mastering-your-camera/445465/focal-length-explained-focal-length-equivalents.html)which means the standard lens that come with it the 14-42mm Zoom is an 28-84 zoom.
With this lens you will be able to have some usable zoom and be able to crop the centre of the image to blow up the subject matter on your computer.
You need to learn about some basics about photography as well Clicky for picture tutorials (http://web.canon.jp/imaging/enjoydslr/part2/2A.html)
And don't forget. Post processing is an important part of photography and should be used to sharpen and enhance pictures taken with your camera. If you don't have an imaging editor, then use the one in my signature below. There are 32 video tutorials-Clicky (http://ictpublish.com/pixlr/) to get you started. The most useful is the Adjusting levels-Clicky (http://ictpublish.com/pixlr/Videoes/06_Levels/06_Levels.html) and for even more adjustment. The Curves tool-Clicky (http://ictpublish.com/pixlr/Videoes/07_Curves/07_Curves.html) is a must (it's my favourite all-in-one adjuster). My Resize-Crop-Sharpen tutorial below, will get your pics ready for the internet or whatever :cool:
Bet you thought this was gonna be easy lol - not to worry! The more effort you put in. The more you will get out - trust me. I'm a photographer :D
21-10-12, 07:29 PM
Thanks again, it's very complicated all this!! I've had a look at this camera and I still have no idea. I'm just wanting decent photos def not a prof photographer at all! I did seek advice in a camera store today, they advised Canon sx240, when I read reviews several say that it's not good in poor light which is exactly where I want to be able to take photos. The Olympus reads well for this .
I'm still undecided but will pursue your recommendation and appreciate this.
21-10-12, 07:53 PM
The problem lies in the very tiny sensors used in digital cameras. In film days the area of the film was 35mm x 24mm. The sensor in the Canon is only approx. 6mm x 5mm. About the size of you're fingernail. No wonder it's no good in low light.
The Olympus sensor is 17.2mm x 13mm so is able to collect more light.
If you can get near the stage then any camera will do!
Sorry I could not give you an easy answer :(
21-10-12, 08:38 PM
Had a look and yes it looks like it will do the job!!! Robbie Williams concert next month will be the test! Can I just ask, when I look at other cameras it tells me what the zoom is eg 12x 26x etc. I can't see for the Olympus but assuming that's the type of camera it is. I've never used nor owed this type so have no knowledge but am learning fast!!!!
Is it a case of point and shoot as with my simple Lumix ??
Thank you again
21-10-12, 08:55 PM
The zoom is on the lens barrel on this type of camera. The lens is interchangeable as well so you can get different lenses for it later. You will be using the full zoom on the camera and then cropping the middle. You need to know about Program mode. Shutter mode. Aperture mode and ISO (similar to film speed). You have time to learn them here Clicky for picture tutorials (http://web.canon.jp/imaging/enjoydslr/part2/2A.html)
As an idea. Set ISO to 800 on P and press shutter half way to read the settings. You can lower the shutter speed or increase the ISO to get faster speeds. Practice indoors in low light and you will soon see what the camera is capable of.
Get one of these memory cards if you don't have any Clicky (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002WE4HE2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350848369&sr=8-1)
I agree with what Chris has said the real problem is that most cameras today will produce a good picture in good light. I think that the e-pm1 is a good choice but you may find the standard lens is a bit short if you are a long way back. I would go to a shop and try it out. If you need an all in one solution I would look at the canon sx40hs, but that might be a bit on the large side.
22-10-12, 10:22 AM
Don't forget by cropping the image you will get twice the zoom of the lens. The Canon sx40hs unfortunately has the very small sensor in.
I forgot to say by all means try the Auto mode and see what you get. Try it at home in the lounge first and see how it copes with the light.
Found a link to the manual. You may want to try out the scene modes before you go.
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