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Masquerade
10-03-12, 09:38 PM
Hello fellow photgraphy friends,

I am a noob when it comes to Digital Cameras. I would like to develop photograhpy as a hobby. I travel to interesting countries much. Like India, Nepal, Egypt and Africa. And I realized everyone has professional cameras. I felt like so much oppurtunities missed, because there were many moments to catch.

So as a graduation present and birthday present I am entitled to one.
I am not sure but I can spend up to 2500 dollars MAX with the lense and all.
I have been investigating for some time now and I got
*Canon EOS 600D
*Nikon d5000
*Canon EOS 40D
*Nikon D90

Sorry for the long post but what do you guys propose ?
I am a noob/beginner anyd advice is useful thanks '!

Chris Cool
10-03-12, 10:24 PM
Hi and welcome.

All the DSLRs you've chosen will take excellent pics, so, which one to choose?

Both the Canon EOS 600D and the Nikon D5000 have articulated screens so they both come first on my list. The Canon EOS 600D has an amazing 1,040,000 dot screen. The Nikon D5000 has 230,000 dot screen...

It is so important to be able to see what you have just taken (especially when it might be your only shot of the day) and to be able to zoom in and see if it's sharp etc. Minimum spec on an LCD should be 460,000 ( I have that on my compact)

So, from your list, it's the Canon EOS 600D for me.

If you'd like to have a silent DSLR (no mirror flapping up and down). Have a look at the Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH2 (http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=panasonic_dmcgh2&products=canon_eos600d) side by side...

Don't forget, post processing is an important part of photography and should be used to sharpen and enhance pictures taken with any camera. If you don't have an imaging editor, then use the one in my signature below. There are 32 video tutorials to get you started. The most useful is the Adjusting levels (http://ictpublish.com/pixlr/Videoes/06_Levels/06_Levels.html) and for the advanced user. The Curves tool (http://ictpublish.com/pixlr/Videoes/07_Curves/07_Curves.html) is a must (it's my favourite all-in-one adjuster). My Resize-Crop-Sharpen tutorial below, will get your pics ready for the internet :cool:


Cheers!


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Masquerade
10-03-12, 11:52 PM
Hi and welcome.

All the DSLRs you've chosen will take excellent pics, so, which one to choose?

Both the Canon EOS 600D and the Nikon D5000 have articulated screens so they both come first on my list. The Canon EOS 600D has an amazing 1,040,000 dot screen. The Nikon D5000 has 230,000 dot screen...

It is so important to be able to see what you have just taken (especially when it might be your only shot of the day) and to be able to zoom in and see if it's sharp etc. Minimum spec on an LCD should be 460,000 ( I have that on my compact)

So, from your list, it's the Canon EOS 600D for me.

If you'd like to have a silent DSLR (no mirror flapping up and down). Have a look at the Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH2 (http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=panasonic_dmcgh2&products=canon_eos600d) side by side...

Don't forget, post processing is an important part of photography and should be used to sharpen and enhance pictures taken with any camera. If you don't have an imaging editor, then use the one in my signature below. There are 32 video tutorials to get you started. The most useful is the Adjusting levels (http://ictpublish.com/pixlr/Videoes/06_Levels/06_Levels.html) and for the advanced user. The Curves tool (http://ictpublish.com/pixlr/Videoes/07_Curves/07_Curves.html) is a must (it's my favourite all-in-one adjuster). My Resize-Crop-Sharpen tutorial below, will get your pics ready for the internet :cool:


Cheers!


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Thank you for the fast reply. I have already beginned to watch your tutorials and begin to do so more when i get my camera they seem very helpful.

Furthermore I can not decide. These too sound appealing:
*Nikon D300 or D300s
*Nikon d80
*Canon EOS 7D
*Canon EOS 5D Mark 2

Since this is my graduation present I can spend money and I want a lasting camera probably for many many years to come.

Chris Cool
11-03-12, 12:18 AM
Ah well!

Now we're talking real money! All are top amateur cameras!

You have a look at the Canons (I've added the the 5D III) Clicky (http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=canon_eos7d&products=canon_eos5dmkii&products=canon_eos5dmkiii)

Learn what Full frame and APS-C sensor means with regards lenses Clicky (http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/digital-camera-sensor-size.htm)

Cheers!


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Masquerade
11-03-12, 02:24 PM
My latest dillema is Canon EOS 600D or EOS7D

I look at comparision and other than battery life I could not get why 7D is more expensive than 600D.
So as you said at the beginning I am leaning towards EOS 600D.
Is there a better model that you can suggest, or EOS is good enough for a beginner like me ?
Thanks

wave
11-03-12, 02:53 PM
hi i would save yourself a some money and look at the 550d the money saved can be used to get another lens or two, which hasnt been mentioned yet.
when buying a DSLR you should remember that you are buying into a system so make sure that system meets your needs. also go and try the cameras out see how they feel.

Chris Cool
11-03-12, 03:17 PM
hi i would save yourself a some money and look at the 550d the money saved can be used to get another lens or two, which hasnt been mentioned yet.The OP does not need to save money as he has already stated. The 550D has fixed screen. The 600D has articulated screen. We have not got round to lenses yet lol

when buying a DSLR you should remember that you are buying into a system so make sure that system meets your needs. also go and try the cameras out see how they feel.Very true!

Chris Cool
11-03-12, 03:35 PM
My latest dillema is Canon EOS 600D or EOS7D

I look at comparision and other than battery life I could not get why 7D is more expensive than 600D. Ah, well, if you read the reviews. You would know why - just compare the conclusions - 7D Clicky (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos7d/30) ------ 600D Clicky (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos600d/19)



So as you said at the beginning I am leaning towards EOS 600D.
Is there a better model that you can suggest, or EOS is good enough for a beginner like me ?
ThanksThere are so many makes and models, that it could pay you to go to your local camera shop and look at them all (take some sandwiches and your gold card lol).

I'm a Canon man, so I'm biased. I would buy the 600D for sure. However, you may like the feel of a Nikon, Sony, Pentax etc...

As for lenses - well, we're gonna spend a small fortune on those, so set aside a couple of thousand when your ready to talk lol...

OK, well, while your waiting, lets get you learning...


How to use a DSLR (Then take a look at Canons basic DSLR tutorials and learn how to use it and find out about ISO, Exposure, Depth of Field, Aperture priority, Shutter priority etc in picture form). Take a look at Canons basic DSLR tutorials and learn how to use it and find out about ISO, Exposure, Depth of Field, Aperture priority, Shutter priority etc in picture form... applies to all DSLRs.

Read what the Crop Factor (Focal Length Multiplier) (http://www.tutorial9.net/tutorials/photography-tutorials/crop-factor/) means in terms of sensor size and lenses.

Photography tutorials in layman's terms
When you’ve mastered the very basic, then you can move onto these simple tutorials
Click (http://www.photoxels.com/digital-photography-tutorials.html)

After that, it's up a notch!

Ron Bigelow's fabulous articles
All you'd ever want to know Click me (http://ronbigelow.com/articles/articles.htm)

Cambridge in Colour...
Learn how to take and edit digital photographs using visual tutorials that emphasize concept over procedure, independent of specific digital camera or lens. Topics range from basic camera tips to advanced techniques.
Click me (http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials.htm)

Looks like you're gonna be busy for a while :D


Cheers!

PS. You may be interested in what I used in my film days - they say it was ahead of it's time and I have to agree - I would have slept with it had the wife let me lol! Click for the Canon EOS 5 (A2 in US) Film SLR (http://emedia.leeward.hawaii.edu/frary/canon_eos_a2.htm) simply stunning... since my illness, I now just use a simple point 'n' shoot Panasonic TZ7 (http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/panasonic_lumix_dmc_tz7_review/conclusion/) Not many compacts get the coveted 5 star ESSENTIAL award (see bottom of page)...


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Masquerade
11-03-12, 04:33 PM
Chris you have been a great help and your tutorials seem awesome.
I went to the mall as you said and triedall of the cameras. Aesthetics and handling wise I liked 60D the most.
I did not like Nikon at all so maybe I am not a Nikon guy.
Canon 60D vs 7D is the last two standing.
http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon_EOS_60D-vs-Canon_EOS_7D

its a very close call and 7D is bit expensive. I am going to think about this more any help is appreciated thanks !

Masquerade
11-03-12, 05:34 PM
Everybody states NikonD7000 is better than Canon EOS 7D, however when I hold it, it looks cheap, meaning that its semi plastics whereas canon looks and feels better. However Nikon takes better pictures and have a longer battery. And there is only 100 dollars inbetween. God what a hard decision.

Chris Cool
11-03-12, 05:59 PM
Everybody states NikonD7000 is better than Canon EOS 7D, however when I hold it, it looks cheap, meaning that its semi plastics whereas canon looks and feels better. However Nikon takes better pictures and have a longer battery. And there is only 100 dollars inbetween. God what a hard decision.Not easy lol! But images can be enhanced very easy nowadays. What you shoot is only half the job!

Go with what feels good in the hand. I have sorted out a couple of lenses that will enhance your shooting pleasure.

Lets start with the wide angle Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM. Which will be a 16mm-35.2mm lens Clicky I just love wide angle images and this one covers it all Clicky (http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/EF_Lenses/Wide_zoom/EF-S_10-22mm_f3.5-4.5_USM/)

Telephoto - Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM. Which will be a 112mm-480mm lens. Ideal for those wildlife must have shots. Clicky (http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/EF_Lenses/Telephoto_Zoom/EF_70-300mm_f4-5.6_IS_USM/)

Cheers!

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wave
12-03-12, 07:29 AM
As already said if it feels right then you are a long way down the right road, dont settle for i will get used to it. as for taking better pictures i cannot comment. I do a lot of club work and to be honest there not a lot between any of the makes of DSLR's what does make a difference is the lens and how people process there pictures. in this day and age you can do just about anything with your image.