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Arthur doyle photography
08-03-12, 05:03 PM
Dear What Digital camera,
First of all I would just like to say I love your magazine. I purchased a Fujifilm Hs10 last year because I am into wildlife photography so the big optical zoom was very important in the decision of which camera to buy. But since then my photography has improved vastly and I am know looking at purchasing a DSLR as I am only 16 years of age I have to look for good deals as I am straped for cash. There is a deal were you get a deal were you get a Nikon D3000,18-55MM lens and a 70-200MM for about 570 euro. What I want to know is even thought the HS10 says it has 24MM-720MM it also has 135MM eguiv in brackets so side by side which has the longer telephoto ability the HS10 or the Nikon D3000 with a 70-200mm lens

Your sincerely
Arthur doyle

Chris Cool
08-03-12, 11:07 PM
Hi and welcome.

The 35mm equivalent is used to indicate the size when using 35mm film (assume I mean that from now on). Sensors come in all sizes so it is easier to understand optical zooms by quoting what it would be if you bought a lens for a 35mm film camera (known as full frame)

The sensor in the HS10 is very small (about the size of your fingernail) Further reading here (http://dondavisphotography.blogspot.com/2011/12/sensor-size-charts.html)

So, lets get down to your question and answer it. If we start with 25mm and call that 1x, then 50mm = 2x, 100mm = 4x, 200mm = 8x, 400mm =16x, 800mm = 32x...

Now, the sensor in the D3000 is smaller than 35mm (APS-C), so there is a Focal Length Multiplier of 1.5x making the 70mm - 200mm lens (Further reading here) (http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/techniques/camera-skills/mastering-your-camera/445465/focal-length-explained-focal-length-equivalents.html) 105mm - 300mm. Based on that you can see from above that it will have an optical zoom of from 4x to12x... also, if you crop so you use the center of the image only. You can increase the magnification to 24x (further reading links will explain). However, you lose half the pixels, so if printing large sizes, then that could be a problem. If it's just for the web and small prints then it will be fine...

Don't forget, post processing is an important part of photography and should be used to sharpen and enhance pictures taken with any camera. If you don't have an imaging editor, then use the one in my signature below. There are 32 video tutorials to get you started. The most useful is the Adjusting levels (http://ictpublish.com/pixlr/Videoes/06_Levels/06_Levels.html) and for the advanced user. The Curves tool (http://ictpublish.com/pixlr/Videoes/07_Curves/07_Curves.html) is a must (it's my favourite all-in-one adjuster). My Resize-Crop-Sharpen tutorial below, will get your pics ready for the internet :cool:

Good luck!


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wave
09-03-12, 06:48 AM
hi and welcome some of the tech stuff is explained above. the camera you have now has a longer reach than the 70-200 so you will find that this is a disadvantage. i am not sure where you are in europe but a d3000 has been replaced by the d3100 and in the uk it is cheaper than the d3000 at amazon. that said if you want to get a DSLR then i would look at canon 1100d and get a kit 18-55 plus a 55-250 for less than the nikon bundle. again 250 is a bit longer but still in my opinion short for wildlife a better option would be a 70 -300 but that ups the price a lot

Arthur doyle photography
09-03-12, 04:19 PM
Thank you very much! I live in Ireland and I know the D3100 has replaced the D3000 but I just saw this deal and thought it was good but from both the replies it doesn't look like I would get enough zoom out of that lens bundle. Of course I could get another lens but I wouldn't have the money for it any time soon

P.S: I would be much obliged if you had a look at my at my filickr here http://www.flickr.com/photos/arthur_doyle/

Yours sincerely Arthur doyle

Arthur doyle photography
09-03-12, 04:20 PM
Thank you very much! Petty about the lack of focal length:( Then what lens would I need to match a HS10's Focal length.

graham_c
09-03-12, 05:14 PM
Hi Arthur.
Just had a look at you flickr site and really enjoyed it. I liked you bird photos specificly the Robins.
.. Graham

Chris Cool
09-03-12, 05:21 PM
Thank you very much! Petty about the lack of focal length:( Then what lens would I need to match a HS10's Focal length.Have a look at my first post to you... I explain how to work it out. Read from. 'So, lets get down to your question and answer it...' :)

Arthur doyle photography
10-03-12, 10:54 AM
So it would be 400MM on a D3000 to just get x24 zoom deary me that would set me back a lot of money!

Chris Cool
10-03-12, 03:37 PM
So it would be 400MM on a D3000 to just get x24 zoom deary me that would set me back a lot of money!You could buy a second hand lens?

How about a Refurbished Nikon 3100 (good as new from manufacturer) Clicky (http://www.digitaldepot.co.uk/used-equipment/refurbished/nikon-d3100-body-only-40-cashback.html) 339

And a 70mm-300mm second hand lens to get you started Clicky (http://www.digitaldepot.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=sigma+300mm+lens+nikon+fit) 129 with 6 months warranty.

That will give you 18x which is pretty good - you can also crop round the image and it will give you a bit more magnification - not sure how much more but every little helps lol

Look after your lens and it will have a good resale value - keep all receipts from Digital Depot who I can recommend by the way.

Don't forget, post processing is an important part of photography and should be used to sharpen and enhance pictures taken with any camera. If you don't have an imaging editor, then use the one in my signature below. There are 32 video tutorials to get you started. The most useful is the Adjusting levels (http://ictpublish.com/pixlr/Videoes/06_Levels/06_Levels.html) and for the advanced user. The Curves tool (http://ictpublish.com/pixlr/Videoes/07_Curves/07_Curves.html) is a must (it's my favourite all-in-one adjuster). My Resize-Crop-Sharpen tutorial below, will get your pics ready for the internet :cool:



Enjoy!


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Arthur doyle photography
10-03-12, 05:51 PM
Thank you again you are a great help! First of 18X would be enough and not that much+The D3100 very cheap and much better than the D3000......I might just save up for that then!
Thank you
Most sincerely,
Arthur doyle

Chris Cool
10-03-12, 06:02 PM
Thank you again you are a great help! First of 18X would be enough and not that much+The D3100 very cheap and much better than the D3000......I might just save up for that then!
Thank you
Most sincerely,
Arthur doyleOK, glad to be of assistance ;)

Phil Hall
13-03-12, 09:51 AM
Hi Arthur,

We've actually looked at the cost of buying a DSLR system with an equivalent reach to a long zoom bridge camera in the latest issue that hits the shelves on Friday.

The cheapest combination we found was the Canon EOS 1100D combined with the Sigma 120-400mm, that came in with a total cost of just over 1000. This provides a 35mm focal length equivalent of 640mm at the long end of the zoom due to the 1.6x crop-factor of the camera.

It's not a cheap set-up if you're in a budget. As the guts have said, might be worth looking at a second hand solution. You can pick up DSLRs very reasonably now, while a 70-300mm would be worth considering as you long zoom, though it won't have quite the same reach as your HS10's 720mm reach - it'll be nearer 450mm with the 1.5x crop of a Nikon DSLR.

Hope that helps, great images by the way.

Arthur doyle photography
13-03-12, 06:54 PM
Thanks I will be saving up! Hear another question for you guys because you have been so much help:)
Canon 1100D or Nikon D3100?
Thanks
Arthur doyle

Chris Cool
13-03-12, 07:53 PM
Thanks I will be saving up! Hear another question for you guys because you have been so much help:)
Canon 1100D or Nikon D3100?
Thanks
Arthur doyleSide by side (http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=canon_eos1100d&products=nikon_d3100&sortDir=ascending)




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Arthur doyle photography
14-03-12, 06:04 PM
So your saying it doesn't really matter?

Chris Cool
15-03-12, 04:15 PM
So your saying it doesn't really matter?

Save up your pennies and in the meantime, get yourself down to your big electrical store and touch both of them - you will like one over the other...

In the end, these are just light capturing boxes. Nothing more, nothing less, with all bells and whistles on 'em!

Touchy feely is the order of the day me thinks!


Cheers!


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